This Skeptics’ Circle is a little
different this time from the ones you’ve seen before. Readers of this blog on Monday will
know that a creationist called Kennesaw Williams has started a new blog
with the handle “Skeptico” and the url of http://skeptico.blogspot.com/
He’s even leaving creationist comments on
other blogs as Skeptico. Since I posted
that link on Monday his blog has received several comments from fellow skeptics
(none favorable to him – thanks for the support by the way), and he doesn’t
seem to have posted anything on his blog since.
Well, Orac suggested that since
this guy so clearly wants to be Skeptico, I should give him the opportunity to
be post on the real Skeptico site – so I asked him to guest blog the Skeptics’
Circle this time. The result is below.
Now, I did explain to Mr. Kennesaw
that to avoid confusion, he couldn’t call himself “Skeptico” on this blog. He reluctantly agreed, although he didn’t
like my original suggestion of Jackass
(too rude). He agreed to the more polite
Donkey, which is close enough. Remember, Donkey is a creationist, and so his
views may seem a little strange to anyone who is used to the regular Skeptics’
Circle. But give him a chance - the actual
featured skeptics’ posts are better than ever, I promise you.
Anyway, enough from me. Without further ado I give you Kennesaw
Williams, aka Donkey, with the 35th
Skeptics’ Circle.
Well
thanks Skeptico. I’ll try to live up to
the trust you have placed in me. It was
a lot of work reading over 40 posts from skeptical bloggers, but well worth the
effort. I’ll just start at the top and
work through to the end.
For
the first post, I thought I would feature Stew of A Night on the Tiles, who has
invented a new form of “woo” (I believe that’s the word) in Palmistry,
Numerology, Astrology: Bullshit. It’s the ancient art of Bracchiumism or wrist-reading. You multiply the number of wrist lines by 15 (since
the number 15 is sacred), and add that to the number of lines created by the
curve of the thumb, to divine the person’s fortune. At first I was outraged by this as Bracchiumism
is clearly the work of the Devil, but then Skeptico pointed out that the
article is a spoof. I now realize it’s
pretty funny – you got me Stew!
Perhaps
Stew should consider registering Bracchiumism.com (it’s
available) or even wrist-reading.com (ditto). As Skeptico (the real one) wrote in Astrology.Con
(not a typo), the owner of Astrology.Com sold her business for $40
million! Astrology may be useless but
it’s clearly not entirely worthless. Skeptico wonders if his www.skeptico.net could be worth millions – I
doubt it since my new donkey site
is clearly far superior. Dream on
Skeptico.
Did I
say astrology was useless? Einzige at Die Eigenheit compares Astrology with
the investment advice given by a real estate investment “guru” in John
Burley's Advice vs. Astrology and finds it’s hard to tell the
difference: ie they’re both useless. What a shocker! I knew astrology was nonsense – if astrology
was real God would have written about it in The Bible, wouldn’t he? But you’re telling me I can’t trust online
investment advice now?
Mark
at Good Math, Bad Math (well which
is it Mark – good math or bad math? It
can’t be both can it?), debunks some Gematria (the ancient Hebrew system of
numerology), in Magic 23. (You thought Bracchiumism made no sense –
this is worse because it is not a joke! –
truly the work of the Devil.) Then
in RePEARing
Bad Math he explains in words even a simple creationist can understand,
what is wrong mathematically-speaking, with the data produced by the Global
Consciousness Project coming out of PEAR. Mark, I could have told you that without all the pointed-headed “math”
stuff – God doesn’t bother himself with random number generators, now does he?
At
least Unsolicited Opinions
knows if he’s writing about good math or bad math. Bad math, he says. In Illegal
Immigration, the Economy, and Statistics he addresses the claim that economists
are "useless" on immigration – specifically, can they correctly
calculate the effect of illegal immigration on jobs? A bit over my head, to be honest, but I’m
sure a math genius like William Dembski would understand it. Perhaps I’ll email him the link.
The Science Creative Quarterly (silly title
because it’s a daily), has an article skeptical of the possibility of space
travel: Hollywood Vs. Science: How Far Are We From
Interstellar Travel? Hollywood’s
version of space travel isn’t real? Say
it ain’t so Scotty!
Ben
Goldacre at Bad Science has found newspaper
stories claiming electromagnetic fields cause illnesses. In Factors that risk being left out of the
equation, Ben highlights two things the newspapers left out of their
stories, namely the evidence (and by that he means there isn’t any), plus a
very crucial nuance that he explains. Then in I have nothing to declare but my
cheekiness he explains why living close to a cell phone mast would
actually make you safer from
EMF. Now that is cheeky! God doesn’t like a smartass, Ben.
In a
related story, The Second Sight
explains that the current Mobile
Phone Towers Cause Cancer scare in Australia couldn’t possibly be down to coincidence, since in the woo world
coincidences don’t exist. Quite right –
everything happens because God wills it – what’s the matter with you people?
Remember
the guy who thinks a comet is going to hit the Earth on May 25th? That’s
today! Put on your tin hats, or
alternatively read Phil Plait The
Bad Astronomer in Comet what
may (groan – make that the Bad Punner – although not as
bad as Skeptico!), who explains that it won’t and why there would not be a
tsunami even if it did. Then in NASA
denies comet will destroy the Earth!, he reports that, well, NASA denies
a comet will destroy the Earth. Hey,
isn’t that proof of a conspiracy? Of
course, I know why you heathens want to debunk end of times predictions – you
know that you won’t be one of the selected ones to be taken to Heaven when
Jesus returns. Well, if today is the end
of times as predicted by Revelations, I’ll be in heaven with Jesus and you
won’t, so send your complaints to Mr. Phil-smarty-pants-bad astronomer, not me. (Skeptico just informed me that should be Dr. Phil-smarty-pants-bad astronomer,
but I don’t care – he’s still going to hell.)
You’ll
also need to talk to The Saga of Runolfr,
(“Runolfr”? – what the hell kind of name is that? Were you short of vowels that day or
something?), because in The
End of the World As We Know It he says pretty much the same as Phil. So you really didn’t add much did you
Runolfr? Wouldn’t your time have been better
spent reading your Bible instead?
Talking
about conspiracies, Daylight Atheism
writes Loose Marbles
I: Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories - the first of a three-part
series debunking "Loose Change", a conspiracy documentary claiming
the September 11 terror attacks were planned and carried out by the U.S.
government. (Loose change / Loose
marbles – now that’s a good pun.) As he says, the film “was characterized by
corruptions of logic, appeals to missing or dubious evidence, wild speculation
blended with selectively presented fact, and other hallmarks of the
irrationality that pervades most conspiratorial thinking”. Standard woo, in other words. Well of course George W. Bush couldn’t have
been involved in 9/11 – he’s a Christian.
Halfway There describes the rather
strange bowel movement advice he caught watching an infomercial late at night,
in the aptly named Garbage
in, garbage out! Apparently if
your bowel movements are fewer in number than the number of meals you eat, the
difference just stacks up inside you every day of your life. Unlikely in my view – we’ve all been
perfectly designed by God in His image, and God wouldn’t have made a mistake
like that, now would he? Read your Bible
next time instead of watching the late night TV.
Respectful Insolence reports that
proponents of taking daily vitamins criticized their opponents for ignoring
less scientifically rigorous studies, in Too
much sciency-ness for the vitamin industry? Of course we all know that alternative medical practitioners want us
to consider less scientifically rigorous studies, but this is the first time
I’ve ever heard one of them say it out loud. Orac goes on to warn against comparing holocaust denial with evolution
denial in Intelligent
design activists make hay out of the Larry Darby case. Well for once I agree with one of these
pointed-headed science types – Intelligent Design is perfectly good and valid
science, while holocaust denial is just wrong. Also, Hitler was an atheist and
a Darwinist, so the comparison with Intelligent Design makes no sense at all.
But
then Sergey at Holocaust
Controversies has to spoil it by taking the opposing view in Evolution
denial, Holocaust denial. Same stuff, if you ask me. Sergey argues that, er, evolution denial and
holocaust denial are the same stuff if you ask him. Actually no one asked you, did they Sergey? But at least he does goes on to debunk the
bogus “challenge” of The National Association of Forensic Criminologists,
Archeologists, Skeptics and Historians ™ (aptly shortened to NAF CASH -
seriously), in Ah,
these CODOH "gentlemen"... And NAFCASH. Despite what the self-proclaimed “Skeptics” of
NAFCASH claim, Treblinka really was a death camp.
Jim
at If it is it doesn't matter casts
a skeptical eye on studies that claim to show sexual preference is genetic, in Born
gay or misbegotten studies: 1 Ill-fitting Genes. Jim says that the same methodology could just
as easily be used to show that there are genetic causes for the differences
between Yankee fans and Mets fans. Jim
doesn’t tell us if he is a Mets or a Yankee fan, but he does tell us he’s
bisexual, so he’ll be going to hell unless he repents. Take Jesus as your personal savior Jim while
there’s still time. (Preferably before
that comet hits today.)
We
Christians, bolstered by the fuss over the Mohammed cartoons, just love telling
the rest of you heathens that you must respect our sacred beliefs (Edit by Skeptico – he means “delusions”). The latest hero in the war for values is a
Roman Catholic cardinal whose human rights have clearly been violated by The Da
Vinci Code! Ophelia at Butterflies and Wheels
has the temerity to disagree with him in Threat
Threat Threat Bless You. Skeptico
tells me Ophelia’s piece pokes some serious fun at the Cardinal’s “ludicrous”
attitude. OK, whatever – she’s going to
hell with Phil, Sergey and the rest of them so why do I care?
It
seems woos get away easily with passing off their delusions on the public. Be
Lambic or Green writes in Justice
was not done how “psychic surgeon” Alex Orbito had his fraud and
possession charges dropped because “there was not a reasonable prospect of
conviction”. Psychic surgery is the work
of the Devil, for sure. Sadly, knowing
that woos sit on juries too, I could easily believe he would get away with it,
but his day for judgment will come in the next life, don’t worry. (It could even be today – that comet,
remember?)
Polite Dissent looks at the extraordinary
claims of Masuru Emoto in Seven Soldiers: Frankenstein #3
and Pseudoscience. Emoto’s
claims that water can recognize words taped to water jars have never been
tested in blind conditions and have never been replicated. And yet Emoto’s work was featured in that
wonderful masterpiece of scientific reporting, “What the Bleep Do We Know!? Surely that film wasn’t nonsense too? (Oh wait, Skeptico says yes it
was.)
A key
skill of skepticism and critical thinking is to know logical fallacies – don’t
employ them yourself, and recognize them in your opponent’s arguments. Bronze Dog at Rockstars' Ramblings is a
regular commenter on Skeptico’s blog, tirelessly pointing out the numerous
fallacies employed by certain commenters. Here he punctures three more fallacies. First, the accusation that he only argues because he’s bitter and/or
jealous: Doggerel
#2: "You're Just Jealous!", followed by Doggerel
#3: "You're Just a [Insert Evil Organization] Shill!". As Bronze Dog points out, the motives of the
arguer have no bearing on whether the argument presented is correct or
not. (Technically these are both ad
hominem.) Also he writes Doggerel
#4: "Closed-minded" and points out it’s not closed minded to
reject claims that are not supported by evidence. This Bronze Dog sounds like a real know-all,
if you ask me.
Talking
of fallacies, Mike's Weekly Skeptic Rant
points out the numerous Straw Man, Appeal To Consequences and other flawed
arguments used in Rabbi Avi Shafran’s rant against atheists, in Reply
to a Rabbi's Ignorance. Of
course, atheists are evil, but then the Jews killed our Lord Jesus (according
to Mel Gibson, and he wouldn’t lie), so I’m 50/50 on this one.
Moderately Insane provides
tips in debating woos in How
to Argue with Snipers. By
snipers I think he means the sort of people who argue with great scientists
such as Michael Behe. Thanks for the
tips – I might email Michael with the link.
At last I can report on some people who
have a good grip on reality and scientific facts. Clark at Unintelligent Design (an
oxymoron if there ever was one), in At
Least it Wasn't During Rounds..... tells a heart lifting story of two
nurses discussing the facts of Noah’s Ark. Of course, Clark spoils it by questioning the whole Ark story. Ridiculous – if there was no Ark, how did the animals survive? Got you there. Anyway, since the actual Ark was discovered
in Turkey recently, the flood story has been proven beyond any doubt. I guess Clark will be joining Sergey, Phil
and Ophelia.
The
mercury-causes-autism crowd rarely lets fact get in the way of their
opinions. Not Mercury writes in Low Dose
Nonsense about a conference exploring numerous evidence-challenged
autism “theories”. (Well, if they’re
just “theories” not facts, why should we take any notice of them? I could have saved you a lot of time there.) One by one the papers to be presented at this
conference are professionally debunked. Strangely, the autistic child of (one of the presenters) Grandmother/Sex
therapist/autism expert/author, Jaquelyn McCandless, is a “non responder” – ie
none of the DAN therapies work on her child. Note: the child is to blame, not the DAN therapies. Oh no.
Interverbal
writes Doing
the Job for Ourselves: Logical Fallacies in Autism – fallacies employed
by the mercury-causes-autism crowd numbers 59 to 68! What is it with you skeptics and logical
fallacies? 68?
Then
Tara Smith at Aetiology (“Aetiology”? Come on – you’re just making up words now), remarks
how the news didn’t really publicize recent research that suggests mercury
fillings are not dangerous, despite the original scares being well
publicized. (So scientists were wrong
about mercury fillings were they? When
will these “scientists” ever make up their minds?) In Mercury and
mythology she speculates that there might be the same lack of coverage
in the future when it is shown that mercury is not causing autism. That’s
if Jesus doesn’t come back first.
Hot Cup of Joe is skeptical of the
claims that life-saving fire-retardant materials are being banned unnecessarily
due to over-zealous environmentalists. In Health
Facts and Fears: pseudoscience from a pseudo-skeptic? he explains that
there actually may be dangers with the materials being discussed, and that
there are alternatives anyway. Hey, I
don’t care how much flame retardant clothing you wear, nothing is going to
protect you from the eternal flames of hell!
ChemJerk (what a rude name!)
tells us in More on
critical thinking that you can
get students interested in critical thinking. He set his students the task of reading and writing a review of Carl
Sagan’s The Demon Haunted World, and
received positive feedback from some students. Hey, wait until you hear back from all
your students ChemJerk – the righteous ones will not be amused about being made
to read about demons.
Finally,
we get to the best bit – Evolution v. Intelligent Design. Since I got interested in this subject about
a month ago, I’ve become quite expert on the subject. For example, I just read Michael Behe’s Darwin’s Black Box and dude it’s awesome! Michael
Behe is a real scientist and he totally debunks Darwinism in this book. You see, Behe found out that some things are
so irreducibly complex they just couldn’t have evolved like Darwin said, and so
he’s proved all those other scientists wrong. Anyway, of all the posts in this Circle I couldn’t wait to read the ones
on this subject to debunk them. Here
goes.
We
start with Thoughts From Kansas. In Gandhi,
Galileo, and the millions of people you never heard of he punctures
those who quote Gandhi’s “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then
they fight you, then you win” line. He
points out that many great ideas started out being mocked, but so did many
awful ideas. The ones that ultimately won were those that could marshal the
necessary evidence and empirical support. I think he means ideas like Intelligent Design. Good point!
Jake
at Jaköbische Rants provides
insight into what she thinks is the
confused thinking of a creationist in I Think
I Blew A Fuse. She seems
surprised to learn that looking at evidence and
then formulating a hypothesis that fits the evidence, is cheating. Well of course it is – real scientists like
Michael Behe start with the “facts” (ie The Bible), and then go and find supporting
evidence. Duh!
The Uncredible Hallq writes in Why
Intelligent Design gets scientists mad that the problem with
Intelligent Design is it wants to flush good, quite difficult research down the
toilet in favor of hand waving. If you
read the post you’ll see I left a comment on his blog, totally destroying
everything he wrote. Go read it – it’s
great.
The Austringer gives us Another
View of Phillip Johnson – a fisking of the ID proponent’s recent
interview. Johnson may believe six
inconsistent things before breakfast, but we don’t have to follow his example. Of course we don’t – just believe your Bible
which is totally consistent.
And Humbug! Online explains some of
the logical fallacies employed by the Intelligent Designists in Intelligently
Designed Cat Escapes Bag. First,
I wanted to congratulate the author for realizing that cats are intelligently
designed. After all, whoever saw a dog
give birth to a cat? (I love that one.) But I read the post quite carefully and yet I
saw no mention of a cat or a bag, so I’m confused.
Rounding
up the evolution offerings, Critiques Of
Libertarianism presents an Intelligent
Design Overview For US Science Teachers – a useful summary. I left a comment on that blog totally
destroying his argument too. These
Darwinists are getting really worried now, if you ask me.
Finally,
a latecomer to the Skeptics’ Circle (very late – this is from October 05), Polite Company (take note
ChemJerk – that is a much nicer blog name), is skeptical of the need for three,
four or five bladed razors in Science:
Science-y Hygine Breakthroughs! Skeptico
wanted me to tell you that reminded him of this Onion article, but I
found it to be full of profanities so I wouldn’t click that link if I were you. I guess Skeptico is going to hell too.
Anyway,
I’m done and this Skeptics’ Circle is now officially closed. It’s been an experience reading your rather disturbing
and warped posts, but I am going to pray for you all. Now handing the blog back to Skeptico.
Er, yes thanks Kennesaw, nice
review. Different. Quite a marathon too - 34 contributors and 39 posts!
The next Circle will be held in two
weeks time, on June 8th, at The
Examining Room of Dr. Charles. Make
an appointment to see Dr. Charles in two weeks. Don’t be late.
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