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April 01, 2009

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I thought much the same thing when I read those this morning.

I know McCarthy promoted her Indigo Child with his super powers, so maybe there is something in that for her award. I'm guessing Expelled fits more in line with the Discovery Institute, but since they do absolutely no science or studies beyond focus groups for their propaganda...it doesn't work. Trudeau is a fraud who needs to be put in prison for continually breaking the law and defrauding people. The people for his award need to be those who buy his books.

Paul, just a little nit pick about the categories you say the JREF used.

1. To the Scientist who said or did the silliest thing relating to occult, supernatural, or paranormal subjects in the preceding twelve months.

Yep you recorded this category correctly.

2. To the Funding Organization that supports the most useless study related to the occult, supernatural, or paranormal during the year.

No you misrepresented this one. Parapsychology isn't equivalent to the headings used by JREF. And I think it's perfectly OK to describe Producers as a "Funding Organization". Producers organize themselves to secure funding.

3. To the Media outlet that reported as fact the most outrageous occult, supernatural, or paranormal claim.

Again you didn't accurately report the category headings. You may disagree with JREF making a generic award but such an award is perfectly in tune with their use of the plural Media in the category heading. It doesn't seem a cop out to me, unless you have some evidence to point to this?

4. To the Performer who fooled the greatest number of people with the least effort in that twelve-month period.

You really misrepresented this one. The category doesn't imply and you can't infer "psychic" performer from the words used. You can't hope that the use of quote marks makes any difference. The award category says straight out that it's for THE PERFORMER...You may only disagree with the award going to Jenny on the grounds that other performers fooled more people with less effort.

5. For the most persistent refusal to face reality.

Yep, you correctly recorded this category.

Not sure why you’re replying to “Paul”. Still:

2. To the Funding Organization that supports the most useless study related to the occult, supernatural, or paranormal during the year.

No you misrepresented this one. Parapsychology isn't equivalent to the headings used by JREF. And I think it's perfectly OK to describe Producers as a "Funding Organization". Producers organize themselves to secure funding.


Don’t really get your point. I agree that “Parapsychology isn't equivalent to the headings used by JREF” – so how did I misrepresent this? Also this is most certainly not a study, it is a film.

4. To the Performer who fooled the greatest number of people with the least effort in that twelve-month period.
You really misrepresented this one. The category doesn't imply and you can't infer "psychic" performer from the words used.

I copy and pasted the exact words used by Randi in his original post. Randi has changed the words since yesterday. It originally said “the "Psychic" performer” exactly as I wrote. Randi removed the word “psychic” between last night and this morning. Good – it was correct to remove it because it was wrong.

Folks, part of the problem here is that a draft of the article was initially posted by accident on Swift, which was then replaced with the final version. The category descriptions changed slightly, since we wanted to broaden the playing field beyond just psychics. I suspect that accounts for a lot of the confusion here. Apologies for that!

-Phil Plait
President, JREF

That would explain it.

I don't know. I've taken a look at the updated article and I think most of Skeptico's original criticisms still stand. Particularly for the last two categories. Although McCarthy is indeed fooling people, I've always gotten the sense that she sincerely believes the crap she's peddling. I've never really gotten that from Trudeau. He just seems like a run-of-the-mill (though disturbingly successful and resilient) conman.

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